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- So we're seeing more and more demand
for less lethal options in the civilian marketplace.
And because of that, we're seeing lots of new innovations
and products to meet that demand.
Companies like Byrna have come out with new pistols.
They've got rifle options
to deliver less lethal capabilities
to the civilian marketplace.
But one thing we'd really like to see
is when a new product is offered
that I can incorporate into something I already own.
So Josh, thanks for coming by,
I love, you know, the new pistols that you have,
all the less lethal options,
but I'm really excited about the new shotgun shell.
Tell me about that,
and tell me why I'm gonna be really excited for it.
- Yeah, absolutely.
And you really kind of hit the nail on the head.
You know, our launcher line is definitely geared
towards different areas where both consumers, civilians,
law enforcement may find themselves,
but we really wanted to give everybody a way to get
into that less lethal space and utilize less lethal options
with a platform that they probably already had.
In comes the 12 gauge shell.
So our 12 gauge shell is meant to fit inside
of any 12 gauge.
It's a two and three quarter inch shell.
So it's really gonna fit into any of those 100 million,
you know, literal shotguns out in the US,
to give people now a less lethal option
to utilize with, like I said,
a weapon that they probably already have.
- So I really love that you have this new option
that incorporates into shotguns I already own,
like you said, like the new launchers are great, right?
They're fantastic.
They do everything they're supposed to do, and then some...
But you know, there is some investment there,
and you're telling me that I can just buy a round
that does the same thing those launchers do
and I can do it into everything from,
you know, my Mossberg shotgun to my high end Benelli
or what have you.
Tell me about the accuracy, well you know.
- So that's one of the really most exciting things
about the 12 gauge is, there's been 12 gauge less lethal
that's been around for a long time,
but unfortunately you were limited in range
to somewhere around 5 to 10 feet
to about 25 feet before it kinda lost enough energy.
So here we're actually, in our 12 gauge rounds
because of the way they're designed,
so there's sabot inside of that shell.
And they have an annular fin design
that actually rifles the round after it leaves the barrel.
So we're getting that same standoff, 5/10 standoff,
but we're getting 75 to 80 yards
of eight inch accuracy out of these rounds.
So now you're not limited to that 25 feet.
You can very well reach out and touch somebody,
you know, utilizing a less lethal.
- If I have a red dot on my shotgun,
it just makes it that much easier.
Tell me about, you know,
are there gonna be different rounds?
You know, you have different rounds for the launchers,
what about the shotgun?
- Absolutely.
So one of the great things about what we're doing
is being able to kind of cross platform
a lot of the projectile.
So every projectile that we offer now in the duty style
will be offered in the 12 gauge.
So everything from Kinetic.
So just a solid polymer ball on the end
of that 12 gauge round to our max compound,
which is that OC, CS blend,
and then our pepper compound, which is that OC, PAVA blend.
- So Josh, the design of the round is very fascinating.
Tell me how you guys got to this design,
and what exactly happens when the round impacts the target?
- Absolutely.
So these rounds have been specifically designed
by our engineering team at Byrna in order to increase
both the efficiency of the ballistics of the round,
as well as the accuracy and then the terminal ballistics
of it actually striking the target.
So you can see, it looks kind of like
this the same 68 caliber half shell at the top,
but this entire body is actually filled with chemical agent.
So we're able to actually fill almost twice the amount
of chemical agent that you find in a normal 68 caliber round
and put it into this 12 gauge around here.
And then of course in the back here,
we have these annular fins that actually rifled around
as it comes outta the barrel.
So after that sabot separates,
the round starts spinning on its own.
Which is what provides us with that accuracy.
- And to 75 yards, correct?
- Absolutely.
Eight inches actually were getting well beyond,
you know, 75 yards.
And then you also see that these consistent score patterns.
So it's almost like your old, you know,
pineapple grenades that were meant to blow up
in a very specific pattern.
These are designed very similarly.
So we get a very consistent spread
of that chemical agent when it strikes a target.
- So depending on this type of chemical agents,
it's gonna impact, and it's gonna get everywhere.
- Absolutely.
You're gonna get a very consistent three to five foot cone.
- [Jack] And what's gonna happen to me?
I'm an assailant, I've been struck with this round,
but what's gonna happen to me exactly?
- Yeah, absolutely.
Depending on the chemical you're using,
you're really gonna start that unit.
It's gonna slam your eyes shut.
It's gonna be your eyes are gonna water.
All the mucosal exposures gonna inflame.
So you know, a lot of snot,
it's gonna be very difficult to see,
very difficult to breathe,
and just really do a good job of incapacitating you
and taking the fight right outta you.
- Stopping a threat quickly. - Absolutely.
- And we've seen how effective those are in law enforcement,
and this is gonna be available
to the civilian marketplace as well.
Absolutely.
We expect the civilian marketplace
to be the largest marketplace
because there are already exists so many shotguns
out in the US market now.
- Well, Josh, that's incredible incorporating less lethal
into your home defense and personal defense
is actually practical now.
You don't have to just buy a new launcher.
There is off the shelf ammunition
that you can incorporate into stuff that you already own.
Josh, thanks again for showing us the new stuff.
Can't wait to see what you guys come up with next.
- Absolutely.
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